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                 Monkeying with the Scopes "Monkey" Trial
                     by Dr. David N. Menton, Ph.D.

                  This version copyright (c) 1994 by:
                   Missouri Association for Creation

[No. 17 in a series] November 1994, Vol. 4, No. 11


There has never been a stranger trial in the history of American jurisprudence than the famous Scopes "monkey trial" that took place in Dayton, Tennessee in 1925. This trial pitted William Jennings Bryan against Clarence Darrow in a classic confrontation over the teaching of evolution and creation in the public schools. Regrettably, much confusion about the important issues raised in this trial has been perpetuated by the frequent production of the Jerome Lawrence and Robert E. Lee play _Inherit The Wind_ (and its many film and television versions). _Inherit The Wind_ is clearly based on the Scopes trial, but takes considerable theatrical liberties to portray the trial as a moral triumph of "science" (evolutionism) over Christian "fundamentalism" (creationism).

The gist of the play is that a young biology teacher is jailed and tried by local businessmen and clergy for daring to teach evolution in the high school. Bible-believing Christians, (especially the "fundamentalist" prosecuting attorney) are portrayed as ignorant, mean-spirited, and close-minded hypocrites who seek both legal and divine vengeance against the teacher for his great "crime." They are opposed by a defense lawyer (a brilliant, broad-minded, and kindly agnostic) who fights courageously to spare the young teacher from this army of ignorance. This is all pretty typical "Hollywood" fare, and would hardly merit our examination were it not for the fact that this scenario has come to be perceived as essentially a historical account of the Scopes trial. The facts show otherwise.

The basis for the Scopes trial was a presumed violation of the Butler Act by teacher John Scopes. The Butler Act declared that it was unlawful for a teacher in the public schools of Tennessee "to teach any theory that denies the story of the Divine Creation of man as taught in the Bible, and to teach instead that man has descended from a lower order of animals." This law was one of 36 such bills introduced in 20 states in the 1920s. The Butler act, like many others, did not forbid teaching the evolution of animals and plants; only human evolution was proscribed. The maximum fine for violation of the Butler act was $200. Imprisonment was not a provision of the law and John Scopes was never jailed.

The whole idea of suing a teacher for teaching evolution was not conceived by the citizens of Dayton, Tennessee, but rather was promoted by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) in New York City. The ACLU advertised in newspapers to locate a teacher in Tennessee who would be willing to test the Butler Act in the courts (with all expenses to be paid by the ACLU). A Dayton resident, George Rappleyea, saw an ACLU advertisement in a Chattanooga newspaper and pressured his friend John Scopes to accept the offer. Unfortunately, Scopes was not a science teacher (he majored in prelaw) and had never actually taught evolution! Scopes was a math teacher and football coach who had merely filled in for the biology teacher (who was ill) for two weeks at the end of the school year. Still, with Scopes' reluctant permission, Rappleyea immediately notified the ACLU that "Professor J.T. Scopes, teacher of science Rhea County high School, will be arrested and charged with teaching evolution."

The Scopes trial began on July 10th, 1925 and lasted eight days. The trial became a major media event covered by over 200 newsmen. It was the first trial to be covered by a national radio broadcast, and the first to receive international coverage as 65 telegraph operators sent daily reports over the newly-laid transatlantic cable. Dayton took on a carnival atmosphere as spectators, "soap box" orators, and vendors converged on the little town from all over America. Much of this attention resulted from the fact that two of America's most famous lawyers faced off on a deeply divisive religious and philosophical issue -- how did humans come into being, and what control should parents have over how this subject is handled in our public schools.

The chief lawyer for the prosecution was William Jennings Bryan, a popular speaker who is widely regarded as one of America's greatest orators. Bryan was a leader in the Democratic Party for nearly 30 years, and served as Secretary of State under Woodrow Wilson. Though politically liberal in many of his views, Bryan was a conservative Christian who early developed a strong interest in the creation-evolution controversy. He clearly favored creation, but was inquisitive enough about evolution to have read Darwin's _On the Origin of Species_ in 1905 (20 years before the Scopes trial). Bryan was sufficiently sophisticated in his knowledge of the scientific evidence to carry on a correspondence-debate with distinguished evolutionists of his day such as Dr. Henry Fairfield Osborn. Bryan publicly declared that he did not oppose the teaching of evolution in the public schools as long as it was dealt with as a theory rather than a fact.

The chief lawyer for the defense, Clarence Darrow, was a well-known criminal lawyer who specialized in defending unpopular people and causes. Darrow was an outspoken agnostic who was eager to discredit Biblical Christianity and promote evolutionism. Darrow made it clear in his autobiography (_The Story of My Life_, Charles Scribner & Sons, 1965) that his only purpose in participating in the Scopes trial was to make the country aware of evolutionary beliefs, and to publicly ridicule the beliefs and perceived intentions of fundamentalist Christians. Darrow could be exceedingly hostile in his treatment of the opposition and was cited for contempt of court during the Scopes trial for repeatedly interrupting and insulting Judge Raulston!

Although the only question in the trial was whether or not John Scopes taught that man evolved from lower orders of animals, the "defense" mainly sought to promote evolutionism and discredit the Biblical account of creation. The question of Scopes' guilt or innocence was of no concern to his "defense." In fact, the lawyers for the defense actually had to coach Scopes' students (with limited success) to claim they were taught evolution. To make evolution believable to the jury, the defense and its witnesses often equated evolution with the development of the embryo! Though irrelevant to the case, Darrow had gathered a large group of evolutionists to testify to the "fact" of evolution. The prosecution successfully demanded the right to cross-examine these expert witnesses. Darrow was so determined that his "experts" not be questioned on their evolutionary opinions, that he refused to call his witnesses to the stand!

In one of the most extraordinary events in the trial, the prosecuting attorney was actually put on the witness stand (as an expert on the Bible) to be questioned by the defense! Ignoring the advice of his fellow counsel, Bryan agreed to be questioned by Darrow on his own Christian beliefs, with the understanding that he would then have the opportunity to question Darrow regarding his atheistic beliefs. After systematically ridiculing Bryan for his acceptance of the miracles and teachings of the Bible, Darrow asked the judge to instruct the jury to find his own client (John Scopes) guilty as charged! This incredible concession served to bring the trial to a speedy conclusion and spared Darrow from taking the witness stand to be questioned by Bryan. This ploy also prevented Bryan from giving his closing argument to a world-wide audience.

In his closing argument (published after the trial, _The Worlds Most Famous Court Trial_, National Book Company, Cincinnati, 1925 p. 323 & 325), Bryan contrasted the revealed truth of God with the evolutionary speculations of men:

"Christianity welcomes truth from whatever source it comes, and is not afraid that any real truth from any source can interfere with the divine truth that comes from the inspiration of God... The evolutionist does not undertake to tell us how protozoa, moved by interior and resident forces, sent life up through all the various species, and cannot prove that there was actually any such compelling power at all. And yet, the school children are asked to accept their guesses and build a philosophy of life upon them."


Dr. Menton received his Ph.D. in Biology from Brown University. He has been involved in biomedical research and education for over 30 years.

Dr. Menton is President of the Missouri Association for Creation, Inc.

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history posted by chrissy on 04/06/2008 at 18:36:53 from IP# 70.22.100.200

 


 


I have to do a history report on the scopes monkey trial   and i have  to do a speech for at least two to 3 minutes long, it has to include clarence darrows perspective, jennings bryans perspective and my perspective is the any site where i could find  this information?  it will be great if anybody found  it thanks


one sided posted by undecided on 03/10/2006 at 21:59:28 from IP# 24.229.184.146

To me, this essay proved to be not exactly helpful, but entertaining nonetheless.  A few years ago, I read, word for word, the entire Scopes "Monkey" Trial and found it compelling.  As said above, the trial was originally pertaining to the teaching of evolution in classrooms.  Personally, I think that there is only one true answer to this particular issue. As a student, one should have three options for a science class.  All would be taught the same way, except when the question of where humans originated is brought up.  One class will be taught evolution, one taught creation, and one will be taught both theories.  If a christian doesnt want to hear about evolution, they take the creation class.  If an evolutionist doesnt want to hear about creation, why should they be forced to? They have their own class also.  For those who are open minded enough to consider both options, the third course is most beneficial.  Both evolutionists and christians have the tendency to dislike people who don't agree with their explanation for how humans came to be.  People who cannot accept the fact that not everyone thinks alike are doomed to stay in a world of hatred.  Jewish people didn't think the way that Hitler did, so Hitler killed them all.  Hatred is a horrible thing, and acceptance is the only thing that will keep this world together.  If there is anything that will kill off humans, it is the fact that we are not willing to consider other points of view.


evolution is the worst theory I have ever heard of posted by A True Christian on 03/05/2006 at 13:11:15 from IP# 206.188.234.113

I am doing a report on The Scope Monkey Trial and this site was very helpful. For those people who believe in evolution, please tell me, if we evolved from another form, such as the ape or monkey, why haven't we evolved even further into something with gills or three arms? Why have we been human beings for thousands of years without further changes? I believe in Divine Creation. Only someone as awesome as God could create something as wonderful as the human. The Bible also says that God created man to resemble Himself. Does that mean God evolved from something else? No, He did not. So why should we believe that we evolved? Why would there still be some apes or monkeys in our world that havn't evolved? You can not tell me that only a handful of monkeys evolved. I stand strong in believing in Divine Creation not only because I'm Christian and we are supposed to but also because evolution does not make sense. There are too many holes in the theory. If you are a true Christian, you don't believe in evolution! If you believe in God or the Bible, you don't believe in evolution. The Bible is God's words written down for us to read. I pray for all the evolution believers that God will change your minds soon, before you destroy our country and our world. God bless you anyway.

Thank you for the helpful site.

A True Believer in God


excellent review posted by R.S. Pappas, Ph.D. on 08/27/2005 at 16:49:05 from IP# 216.78.44.61

It is interesting to note that the three "prehuman ancestors" used in the trial to support evolution and “refute” Biblical creation included what Dr. Michael Girouard once called “a mistake, a retake, and a fake.” Nebraska man was fabricated from a fossil tooth that many comparative anatomists said was obviously from a human ancestor. A complete skeleton was later found with more of these teeth. The skeleton was that of a pig, now extinct in North America, a mistake. Piltdown man was labeled a fraud by a dental student around the turn of the 20th century, yet proof of fraud waited decades until close examination showed that an ape jaw bone with teeth filed down and stained to appear old had been placed together with a fossil human skull. Piltdown man, a fake, was used for about 75 years to convince stubborn Bible believers that Adam was an ape. Java man was the third “prehuman ancestor” introduced at the trials. Eugene Dubois, its discoverer, had already reversed his original claims (a retake) of the skull cap as representing a prehuman ancestor, since fully human skeletons were later found in the same vicinity. The defense neglected to mention this in the trial. The undisclosed truth that its discoverer rejected Java man as a "missing link," along with the use of a fake and a mistake, were the tools of the atheistic scientific intelligentsia of the day.

And christians want to believe evolution? Only because we are indoctrinated to believe what Dr. Michael Denton (defender of Punctuated equilibrium model of Evolution)  described in "Evolution, a Theory in Crisis" as the greatest cosmogenic myth of the 20th century, neo-Darwinism.


if you don't know what THEORY in the scientific sense means posted by monkey trail on 08/01/2005 at 03:00:12 from IP# 203.126.27.50

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

m ost people misunderstand the user of Theory in the scientific sense and resort to semantically arguements that are patently false.

Evidence for evolution.http://www.talkorigins.org/f aqs/comdesc/evidences.html

(and note, evolution is NOT abiogenesis, that's another subject altogether that is being explored)

On Intelligent Design.http://www.talkdesign.org/

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the way i see it, the only way to resolve evolution and intelligent design is to see evolution as the hand of god.


Inherit the Wind facts v. fiction posted by Fred on 03/16/2005 at 14:41:49 from IP# 12.9.31.182

Go to the website www.themonkeytrial.com to see lots of these comparisons between realtity and Inherit the Wind.  Lots of video clips too.  You'll love it!  (Also you can go there to purchase an electronic version of the actual court transcript.

Thanks!


Good Site posted by DIana Arteaga on 03/01/2005 at 17:14:04 from IP# 64.215.182.2

I am currently doing a paper on whether or not school teachers should be allowed to teach evolution.  This website was helpful in giving me some ideas on why people oppose the idea of teaching evolution in schools.  I am a cristian and i do believe in the bible but i am open to other ideas I would like to recommend a site for all you to read especially those that oppose evolution I'm not trying to change your opinion but read the first part of the essay on this website http://www.wowessays.com/dbase/af4/ crs258.shtml.  If any of you know of any other good wesites with more info on evolution can you please e mail me to diana_arteaga_123@hotmail.com, it would be greatly appreaciated.  Thanks

infinitessimal correction posted by Farquhar on 02/20/2005 at 20:35:35 from IP# 4.226.6.156

the maximum fine for teaching evolution at the time was $500, not $200


post effects posted by wellington on 02/07/2004 at 23:50:33 from IP# 24.90.212.2

what were the post effects of the scopes trial? i need to do a 8 min presentation on it... i would appreciate it if you could offer me some neat info thanks

Interesting Video made me come to your site posted by Father of nine children on 06/11/2003 at 17:10:52 from IP# 216.176.173.66


Our devoutly Christian family watched a video about the “monkey trial”.   This really puts God on trail, to whether or NOT YaHWeH is the Creator or a myth.  Although knowing Hellywood would take their liberties “making all the Christians look crazy” and the atheists brilliant.  That lead me to your web site to get a better understanding of the FACTUAL OCCURANCES. 


 


However “watching the film” it hit me, that what is actually going on in court rooms today in the USA as to remove “in God we Trust” from our currency and government building and courthouses, together with the pledge of allegiance, and biblical marriage; is what happened there in Dayton, Tenn. 1925.


 


I was shocked to find that it was inspired of the ACLU.  And be it correct or not what the colonial portrayed would happen to our country as a result has actually happened, so that today Sodomites desire equal marriage and tolerance.


 


Yet the facts are that the opposition does not allow Christians EQUAL access or the same TOLERANCE that they demand of society.  “They” desire to be the bigots and lords over all Christians and it is sad but actually happening.


 


I thought it interesting that the opposition IN FACT was treated very kindly in Dayton, and that it was the opposition that DIDN’T want the Evolution Experts on the witness stand and lied refusing to go on the witness stand himself which was the agreement.  That the teacher actually never taught evolution, was NEVER in jail, nor ever paid a fine, and that it was the ACLU that incited the whole issue to begin with.


 


There is so much GOOD Creation Science out there today, but precious few Christians are aware of it.  See my spiritual web site:


 


http://www.modestapparelchristianclothinglydiaofpurpledressescustomsewing.com/Flavo rite_Tastes.htm


 


If EVOLUTION is TRUE, then DEATH happened before ADAM.  Thousands of years before ADAM and EVE which of course had "sons and daugthers"  Genesis 5:4 which is where Cain and the others got their wives.


 


If the Biblical record of six DAYS (not years, nor months) “the evening and the morning”, remember God is LIGHT, before the sun was made.  Is TRUE then evolution is a LIE of SATAN, the FATHER of LIES  but that does not rule out “MUTATION”,  selective breeding, sterile Mules and other un-natural non-reproducing crosses, hybrids – with human intelligence added, and now Genetically Modified Seed produced by advanced technology and knowledge manipulated…  PLEASE NOTE, DIDN'T HAPPEN BY CHANCE,   these changes are NOT evolution.


 


The law of natural is that things, get older, deplete, run down, degenerate, go from order to chaos not the otherway around as the EVOLUTIONISTS have their FAITH to exclude God and call God a liar.  By claiming that the record of God "the BIBLE" is a myth.


 


People which desire to believe in a God that will produce an every lasting heaven for them to dwell in some day should not have any problem with the small miracles in the Bible.   For they are nothing compared to resurrecting the entire history of all humanity for judgment and granting eternal life to the just (those believing in the promised Jewish Messiah “CHRIST”) and the damned to eternal punishment for rejecting God’s record of HIMSELF, HIS CREATION, and HIS requirements to simply believe then to walk in obedience by faith we breath our last natural breath.


 


There are many things we use every day and do not totally understand them.  Microwave ovens, computers, etc.  But when finite man decides he knows what happened years before his existence without consulting the single source of knowledge on that subject which has been flawlessly passed down over thousands of year  “GENESIS”.  MAN makes himself god and judge of the TRUE CREATOR.  Such a man is deceived by his own ego and pride and will not humble himself to accept the forgiveness of a merciful CREATOR.  Hence it is only man kind, women included that will go to HELL by choice.


 


So while we are a free moral agent with a mind to think.  We had better think that the only one here during the first five days of creation was God and HE has told us what happened in the Bible.  Only the FOOL and idiot trick themselves to believe they are so smart.


 


Well here is your test.   STOP AGING AND START ETERNAL LIFE NOW…  Or else you better pay attention to the God’s program as given in the Bible.


 


So America has put God on trail and God has lost many times here and now in our free moral agency state…  but in a hundred or thousand years from now… only those on God’s side are going to have a prayer of a chance.


 


You are a gambler and it’s your SOUL.  Place your bet today on God or Darwin.  Darwin is DEATH and everyone loses, for everyone will get old and die.


 


God is LIFE and LIFE ever lasting.  Winner takes all…….eternity to enjoy.


 


The opposing aging attorney leaving determined to weight the books as he leaves the courtroom carrying both Darwin and the BIBLE.


 


And that’s what I think the movie teaches truly thinking people to do.


Oops a colossal mistake posted by Theocredan on 04/25/2003 at 02:59:02 from IP# 165.236.64.37

I'm terribly sorry, the web site is actually: www.marshill.org not .com

To "Ryan", "TT" and everyone posted by Theocredan on 04/25/2003 at 02:44:36 from IP# 165.236.64.37

1. Ryan, it does not matter what subject, what contraversy or what issues the world may face, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A BIAS. It's human nature! nothing is completely subjective. not the news or newspapers or books or reporters or anyone. People will always have beliefs and as long as there are people there will be bias. wouldn't you admit your little comment post had a few pounds of your own bias "hidden" in it?
2. TT, it's tempting to change the subject and foot all of the blame somewhere else isn't it? here is a web site for you and anyone else interested in evolution(it's proof or more importantly it's lack there of) and creation. the articles are written by Dr. Mark Eastman, a "Reformed evolutionist" who was swayed by the sheer lack of evidence and improbability of Darwin's theory:
www.marshill.com
PS: no one denies that artistic liscence was used in Inherit the Wind IT IS NOT A DOCUMENTARY SO STOP SHOWING IT IN SCHOOLS AS ONE.
Thank you, that is all
Oh and thanks for the web site.

Bias posted by B.S. on 04/20/2003 at 16:23:01 from IP# 209.214.108.165

Dr. Menton,


Your bias for Bryant is very apparent in the report above.  I am trying to do a report on the trial and I was looking for useful sources and I came upon your website.  Darrow is the victim of the town's unconstitutional use of a combination of church and state.  The judge on the case sat in church while the prosecution talked about the case in his sermon.  Along with many other unlawful and unethical events, contrary to your beliefs Darrow was being ridiculed not your Bryant.  I was brought up Christian and I truly believe that there should be a clear wall between the two.  Darrow is right to test the beliefs of those who claim to know the bible so well.  It says in the bible God will test our beliefs, Bryant like many others fear everything there father didn't teach them.


 


Re: religion and the state posted by Glen on 01/24/2003 at 19:05:52 from IP# 216.196.243.254

> How would all of these die-hard Christians feel if they were the minority, and their school were teaching Islamic or Jewish beliefs?

Good question. I believe the answer is not that we are guided by "feelings", but that we are guided by God. If we care for our children, we teach them what is right.

In communities of people with common belief of Truth, it's easy to teach that common truth to children in one school (system). But in communities where truth cannot be agreed on, a group of those who hold to the truth must break away to preserve and teach it to their children.

I do not believe that the government has exclusive rights to run "one" school system, nor that people who choose not to send their children to that system should be denied the use of their tax money to use at the school of their choice.

religion and the state posted by margaret on 01/24/2003 at 09:44:50 from IP# 134.241.157.3

In America, the state and religion are supposed to be seperate. Having school teaching Christian beliefs obviously is not seperate. How would all of these die-hard Christians feel if they were the minority, and their school were teaching Islamic or Jewish beliefs?

Scopes Monkey Trial posted by Unknown Person on 11/06/2002 at 20:11:44 from IP# 68.40.104.223

Incredible Site! Not as imformative as it could be but at least it has the cold hard facts instead of propaganda. Inherit to Wind, quite a...well interesting movie, if it could be put like that. Very misleading, while a good movie. I hope you are reading all this Professor, because it is a good site, and you should check up on it. On evolution, its incredible that people could think its true! Professor, you should watch "Unlocking the Mystery of Life" If you have not already. Several other professors have already duped thier theorys in light of reacent discoverys. I would of liked you to E-Mail me back, if i had given you my E-mail. Sorry, I am slightly paranoid and will not give my last name.


In Christ,
Andrew

scopes trial posted by nick on 10/01/2002 at 11:30:05 from IP# 207.74.115.22

I think that the whole "Monkey Trial" contraversy was very interesting and this site did give some pretty neat information. I think that even know Scopes technically lost, he really didn't becuase he only had to pay $100 and that was the smallest fine possible. He got through this trial with the help of Clarence Darrow and that is who I am doing a report on for my english class. I think that if you are going to do a report on a biography or autobiography, look into doing THE STORY OF MY LIFE by Clarence Darrow. It is an interesting and long book. It isn't great the whole way through but the information that you can find on this topic is great. Good luck

Evolution posted by C.L.H. on 08/23/2002 at 11:28:03 from IP# 12.147.245.67

You cannot say you believe the bible and evolution. They bible clearly states in Genesis 1 that God created the heavens and the earth. He created the world in 6 days and stated that for each day there was a morning and a evening. Nothing is impossible with God, afterall, He is God... He loves you and created you in His own image. Don't fall for that lie that you evolved from slime, to become the beautiful person that you are. Look at the stars, they are telling you something. They are telling you that God is there. If you ask Him, He will reveal Himself to you. I promise. I asked Him if He was real more than 20 years ago, and He has come into my life and helps me daily. I wouldn't want to live without Him. He is my best friend. He is faithful and He really does help us everyday, even when we don't realize it. Just pray and wait and see what happens... God bless you, friend.

Scopes Monkey Trial posted by Julia on 06/05/2002 at 14:50:17 from IP# 64.12.101.174

Hello! I was assigned to a debate on the Scopes Trial. I am to argue that Scopes shouldn't have been guilty for teaching evolution. I'm argue all the con's. I don't know whre to start? Can you help me? Are there ay good sites for this topic or advice? I don't even know why he shouldn't have been guilty! Thanks so much if you can help me with this.
Julia

comments posted by Erik on 06/02/2002 at 20:14:27 from IP# 206.170.217.228

The entire point of the scopes trial was the ACLU challengeing a law that violates the 1st and 14th ammendments, not to ridicule those who didn't belive in evolution. The ACLU did not care whether or not evolution was correct, or if indeed creation was correct, they were merely trying to curb the infringements on peoples individual liberties that were rampant at the time. Darrow did not intend to ridicule Bryan's beliefs, but instead was trying to get him to admit that even he interpreted parts of the bible and did not read them literally. He then stated his client was guilty not to avoid cross examination by Bryan, but because he wished to avoid an acquital that would destroy the entire reason for the bringing of the case. Also, the town of Dayton did indeed have the idea of trying a teacher for violation of the Butler act, because they wanted all the media attention that was lavished upon them and desired to 'put dayton on the map'. Among those who encouraged the trial for these reasons were the prosecuting attorney's. Furthermore, creationism is not a scientific theory for to the sole reason that it raises more questions than it answers

Scopes Monkey Trial posted by Paul on 05/09/2002 at 09:17:59 from IP# 62.6.77.230

Interesting article, but I see a lot of readers are looking for more information.

One website you might want to check out is http://www3.mistral.co.uk/bradburyac/tennesse.html

Its got lots of stuff, including the REAL reason why the defence only called one expert witness (apart from Bryan).

Christian Evolutionists posted by Bob on 05/05/2002 at 23:13:38 from IP# 152.163.201.82

I enjoyed the perspective of the article. I have read some comments from some Christian Evolutionists claiming that the evidence for Evoulution is overwheming. If so, why is it still the THEORY of Evoultion? To paraphrase Bobby Kennedy , "instead of asking why, I looked at the Bible and said why not?" I believe if you start with an Evolutionary presupposition, you will end with an Evolutionary finding, and likewise with a Creationary presupposition will yield a Creationary finding. With all the horsepower that the world has thrown at proving Evolution over the years, this still is NONE. They are STILL searching for the proven Ape-man, reptile-bird, etc, Doesn't that tell you something?

go on... posted by Becky on 04/24/2002 at 22:33:07 from IP# 206.55.254.126

I would like to hear more on this subject from you. This has a very interesting view on this subject that I have seen so far. I am also doing a project on thsi subject and appreciate more information on the monkey Trials. Thank you

I am from Dayton, Tennessee. posted by Angela on 04/18/2002 at 17:46:50 from IP# 134.241.196.34

I am from Dayton, Tennessee where the trial took place. There is a little museum in the basement of our court house. I am also doing a speech on the Scopes Monkey Trial. So if you can suggest any good websites, please email me. Thank you.

good site but also misses stuff posted by Charles Fan on 04/17/2002 at 23:42:42 from IP# 68.49.84.111

okay nice site informative but biased. Number one the book inherit the wind isn't a book that is science beats religion it is a book to say that you shouldn't stop an idea just because you think it is wrong when you should let other decide. If want an example of this go to last page of inherit the wind and see that Drummond is holding the bible and the book of evolution side by side. also notice in the book that at one time hornbeck accuses Drummond of being more religious than Brady. apparently you ain't looking at the symbolism.

Number 2 Bryant did oppose evolution in the trial he denounced evolution. also he said that evolution brought about agnostics and atheists with low moral standard.

Number 3: Drummond was cited for contempt because the judge was clearly biased. the judge called a stop to darrow smacking of Brady and the day after that told that the testimony of darrow v bryant would be stricken from the record. So of course you would be angry and yell at the judge

Number 4: the defence sought to remove an unjust law not the bible. for example they pointed out that the law broke the first and fourth admendments. (which the judge said wasn't true another show of biasness).also in the creaming of bryant darrow got that the creation could be more than a million years to create thus validate evolution but it isn't an open slandering. plus that is the only thing that darrow could do. his witnesses were called not relavant
and only the bible was allowed to be used.

Number 5: remember this is a law test they want to lose so they can appeal.

Number 6: The judge said that the professors of evolution were not admissable so that Darrow couldn't use there testimony. But they told the judge that they wanted the testimony on the record for THE APPEALS COURT( note they want to lose) but they couldn't let the jury hear. and so the defence wrote the testimony down and gave it to the judge. and since it is written the prosecution couldn't cross examine it.

Number 7: The testimony of bryant was striken from the record by the judge. who would also most likely have bryant cross examining darrow kept so he smartly said that his witness is guilty so they could go to the appeals court. ( remember he ain't saying that evolution is wrong but to say that Scopes is guilty of breaking the bad law)

my opinion on the last quote Darrow said something else (not quoted exactly right) " that religion thinks they know what they do not know and that science know that they do not know but they seek to find out" (big major differences)

source: Knappman, Edward W, Great American Trials, new england
Publising, Washington DC
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Charles fan

HELP!! posted by Brooke on 04/17/2002 at 10:54:27 from IP# 204.168.224.80

I have an english report to do on this Monkey Trial. I have to define Darwinism and evolutiopn and I have to include any info I know about the Trial. I have to do this because we just finished reading "Inherit The Wind" If anybody can give me ANY information, please email me at PinkWater88@aol.com. Thank You!

This is very informative! posted by Lindsey on 04/04/2002 at 14:20:12 from IP# 198.236.10.48

I am doing research on this and your page really helpedd me out alot! Thanx and Mahalo

To Danielle - A Believer- and any one else interested posted by Dana on 03/27/2002 at 00:31:54 from IP# 64.12.101.163

I am a third year high school science teacher (B.S. Miami University, Secondary Education, Biological Sciences) and my Environmental Science class is having a "debate" tomorrow as to whether there is enough scientific evidence to incorporate Intelligent Design in the Ohio Science Standards. Along with this is the question, "is evolution based upon 'faith' just as much as creation?" For this reason I have been online researching and came across your response to an article regarding the Scopes Monkey Trial.
You wrote: "...Although I am a Christian and I do believe the our heavenly Father put us on Earth, I also believe that we did infact evolve from something other than the human form that we are today. There is a lot of scientific information to back this up, and since I am going to major in science I completely agree with it. John Scopes was simply teaching his opinion and everyone as a right to there own...."
I too am a Christian and a science major, however my beliefs as to the "evolution of humans" and teaching "opinion" are different than that which you stated. If you are interested in a friendly, Christian, and science based discussion regarding this matter, please respond to this message. I would like to know more about the scientific evidence to which you are referring in your comment.

Anyone who is interested in corresponding may send me an email by using the link associated with my name. I will respond within the same day.
Thanks and I hope to hear from you. If you respond, I'll let you know how the "debate" went.

John Scopes posted by Mary Taylor on 03/24/2002 at 15:03:08 from IP# 207.105.124.39

Whatever happened to John Scopes after the trial? Did he contiune teaching? What became of his life? Mary Taylor

A believer posted by Danielle on 03/20/2002 at 09:49:51 from IP# 209.7.231.221

This article was very informative. All though I am a Christian and I do believe the our heavenly Father put us on Earth, I also believe that we did infact evolve from someting other than the human form that we are today. There is a lot of scientific information to back this up, and since I am going to major in science I completely agree with it.John Scopes was simply teaching his opinion and everyone as a right to there own. I thought that it was wrong for him to be prosecuted for this. thanks ~~ Danielle*~~

simple truths posted by Reana on 03/19/2002 at 20:00:18 from IP# 63.105.18.14

I love my creater, Heavenly Father, I believe he made me after his own image. I know He loves us and he would not send us as an ugly little fish thing, a monkey, or any other thing that distracts from his wise plan for us, His children. He made our spirits and our bodies so perfectly. I don't believe that a little cell thing could be that smart. It would have to be one allknowing cell to creat something as wonderful and amaizing as the human body. He didn't forget one thing. He even gave us scripture so we would not be left to our own foolish understanding. I'm so thankful for that and I hope that we as a people will not forget Him and all he has done for us so that we could return to Him where we began as brothers and sisters, joyful and excited to start life on earth. I believe that evolution is one of Satans plans to lead us away from Him and simple truths.

comments posted by student on 03/17/2002 at 16:33:19 from IP# 64.246.153.225

I'm writting a paper on the Scopes Trial for school and the information on this site was very useful. Thanks.

Inherit the Wind posted by Debbie on 03/08/2002 at 19:20:54 from IP# 67.33.249.33

Thank you for providing a different view on the Scopes trial. I teach an honors biology course and we are watching the film. We've already discussed that this is a fictionalized version of the trial and that a great deal of artistic license was taken in it's filming.

I hope to have them read your commentary as an alternative view. A student today commented on the way Christians are protrayed in the film. I had to agree that it was biased in this regard and that not all Christians feel the way that was shown in the movie.... although many do.

We only watched the movie up to the part where Drummond (Darrow) is found in contempt of court and I've asked them to think about what their response would be if they were Darrow. They are also supposed to go online this weekend and each find some little fact about the actual trial to bring back to the class for discussion on Monday.

I have to respectfully disagree with one of my fellow posters here.

I'm a Christian but I do agree that evolution has occurred.... well.... for some of us it has stopped. *lol* As a scientist the evidence is just too convincing.

Personally I don't believe that understanding the mechanisms behind God's wonderful plan diminishes the miracle of it all. We study rainbows, weather, and how the body works and I still consider them works of God... I just understand better how intricate and miraculous they truely are... the same goes for evolution.

It's an amazing system that allows for the adaption of species to the environment.

I let my students make up their own minds though.

BTW... as a public school educator, I also have to say to the person that said that creationism is against the law... it's not. It can be discussed in schools. It just can't be the only religious belief discussed or discussed as the only belief.

Scopes posted by Laura on 03/07/2002 at 09:48:07 from IP# 64.88.0.135

I think this trial was very importent and because of all this, the schools and science dep. is the way they are today. I think Scopes shouldn't have been finded for anything beauce he was standing up for something he believed in. We should all do this and he is a good example to us.

inaccuracy of this website posted by Judy Di Leo on 03/04/2002 at 15:50:56 from IP# 207.172.11.233

I would like to suggest that people go to


www.teachwithmovies.org/guides/inherit-the-wind.html

The authors of this website have this to say about Dr. Menton’s website:

Note that the author of this article is in error when he charges that Darrow lied to Bryan about allowing Bryan to cross-examine him. It was the prosecution's lead counsel, Mr. Stewart, who
ordered that the prosecution not present any further evidence after the disastrous examination of Bryan by Darrow.

he was... posted by Cydney on 02/28/2002 at 18:14:29 from IP# 209.240.16.209

William Jennings Bryan was my 4 great grandpa. I would like to become a lawyer or president someday, evev before I know that he was related to me. I would like to know if you had any family information on him will you please send it to me. Thank you very much,
Cydney Hoffman

I hate this trial posted by Bob Botawsky on 02/26/2002 at 14:27:46 from IP# 156.63.129.13

First of all it is about a stupid person who knew about the law and broke it and knew the consiquences. Then he says that it was ok because he thought it was a stupid law. If I thought that it should be leagal to bribe someone so I did it and people found out about it do you think that I would get off without prosecution. WRONG!!!!!

HELP ME PLEASE!!!!!11 posted by dwayne on 02/25/2002 at 13:35:03 from IP# 209.226.36.10

i'm doing a project on the trial and i am hoping for some inside information if anyone can help me send it to my email.... thanks

great site! posted by ash on 02/21/2002 at 16:17:02 from IP# 68.39.224.7

i thought your site was a great way to learn abnout the scopes trial. i have an essay for school to do tonight and you helped me alot. Thank you :)

thanx posted by SaSa on 02/14/2002 at 16:46:56 from IP# 64.12.103.177

your site really helped me with my research paper. Its due tomorrow and i bearly have anything done. I only wish it had every little detail so i didnt have to keep looking for more sites. Thank you

to a Christian evolutionist posted by emmy on 02/10/2002 at 19:37:16 from IP# 65.101.237.142

I don't understand how you think you are a Christian. Christians beleave that the All Mighty God has created every thing and every one!!! From my understanding of evolution, you beleave that humans evolved form monkeys or apes. therefore you can't be a Christian and beleave in evolution. thanks

good site posted by Scott Ratkiewicz on 02/08/2002 at 14:19:45 from IP# 216.125.163.66

wow my buddy Ben has to write a paper for english in Mr. Bednar's class because we all failed our test. (www.jasonbendar.com) and we justed wanted to say your site has given us so much information about the scopes monkey trail that we have enough research to get us out of our hole. We wanted to say thanks and that we will source your site correctly. It is a really good site with a lot of great information. Do you have any others? Well I enjoyed the site and I hope everyone here checks out our teachers site, if you going under his teacher section and under Honors II you can find a special video about half way down the page.

later

~ben and Scott


What????? posted by unknown on 02/08/2002 at 11:01:44 from IP# 165.234.193.31

what is this?? i'm a tad bit confused. why?? because back in 1925 in the state of Tennessee it was illegal to speek of evolution. Now it's ok, and illegal to speak of creationism. what is this??

Scopes Trail posted by Rachel Ryder on 02/04/2002 at 21:30:42 from IP# 66.61.59.150

I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed reading you web page about the Scopes Monkey Trail and I thought it was very good and it helped me with my paper alot. Keep up the good work, you did very well. Thanks


Rachel Ryder

Re: Good Questions posted by Glen on 01/21/2002 at 18:55:49 from IP# 216.196.243.254

"you've got to be pretty stupid to put all of your faith in the Bible."

So what are our options?


1. trust certain parts of the Bible, but not others? Who's to say what's right or wrong - and for that matter, doesn't one wrong invalidate the whole thing?


2. who says the Bible is wrong in any way? Why not assume it's 100% accurate and any discrepancies are due to mistranslation.


3. Ever hear of the Gap Theory?

Good Questions posted by TT on 01/21/2002 at 12:54:40 from IP# 205.188.192.54

The film, Inherit The Wind, may be far from the truth but let's face it...what about Touched By An Angel? That's a far out concept and Christians just eat it up. That's more proof that believers have 2 different standards. Their fantasy vs someone else's fantasy. If it's their own, It's okay.
You can still baffle believers with the questions that Darrow asked Bryan during the real trial. They really have a hard time disproving science while trying to remain a Christian. In the end it doesn't make sense, you've got to be pretty stupid to put all of your faith in the Bible.

Christian Evolutionist posted by Melanie on 01/20/2002 at 23:24:51 from IP# 206.133.174.233

Dear- A Christian Evolutionist
I realize that you probably won't come back to this page and read this, but I really want to discuss what you think! I am soon to be 16 and have been a fundamentalist almost all of my life, but it wasn't until VERY recently that I even knew Christians could believe in evolution. Please email if you read this. I couldn't get a hold of you for some reason. Thanks!

very interesting posted by intrigued fundamentalist on 01/17/2002 at 19:21:13 from IP# 24.92.78.37

Mr. Menton--


I felt compelled to commend you on your article of the Scopes Trial. However, I feel it is a bit biased, as it seems to favor the theory of evolution. I am a fundamentalist, yet I am not against the teachings of evolution. It is a scientific proposition of the origin of man, and a very valid one, indeed. I was under the impression that American citizens are entitled to freedom of religion. Society is not obligated to believe anything it hears, therefore contradicting its own complaints. Schools today teach about the culture and religion of other nations, yet they are not expected to believe that they are "correct" or appropriate. As evolution is referred to as a THEORY, it should be portrayed in the same sense. Darwin did not say that humans evolved from apes, he merely stated that there are many similarities between humans and other species and that there may be a common ancestor somewhere. I don't feel it is wrong to teach evolution in schools if it is taught correctly. Evolution and Creationism are not entirely different. Evolutionism explains the process and scientific approach of how the world came about; Creationism explains the reason the world was created and approaches it from a religious stand point. Who is to say which is "right"? Our country was founded by Christian men and women based on Christian principles, yet it is now required by law that church and state are to remain separate. So who is to say what is to be taught and what is not to be taught when the original teachings of the constitution aren't accepted? I think both Evolution and Creationism should be taught in school to provide both sides of the story, which allows individuals the freedom to decide which they feel is right for him or her. I thoroughly enjoyed your piece and encourage the continuation. Debate is the only way to hear both sides of the story.

I NEED HELP posted by Farhan on 01/13/2002 at 22:36:35 from IP# 205.188.199.52

i jus need help with the trial favoring scopes thanx

Scopes Trial, music posted by Dave Ferrin on 01/09/2002 at 09:57:51 from IP# 63.124.151.50

Hello, I am very familiar with not only the Scopes 'Monkey' Trial, but also with the somewhat disguised treatment of that episode in American history, in the movie, "Inherit the Wind". I am also a musician, and play in an Olde Tyme band. In the move there are two repeating songs played periodically throughout. One song is "Give me that Old Time Religion", and the other song which is only slightly audible is "There Ain't no Bugs on Me", which I believe was written in response to that trial, I am not certain of this but would make sense. What I would like to find are any sources for additional lyrics to "There Ain't no Bugs on Me", I do have some lyrics, but believe there may be others. If you can be of any help, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You. Dave

Greatness!!!!!!!!! posted by Ashley on 12/14/2001 at 09:42:10 from IP# 64.107.120.15

This was an excellent Web site for me to look at. Thanks

Can't we all just get along? posted by A Christian Evolutionist on 12/13/2001 at 00:33:47 from IP# 66.127.240.216

Mr. Menton--


I was intrigued by the title of your piece, however, I don't feel that this accurately portrays the facts of the Scopes monkey trial.
John Thomas Scopes was a pawn in a scheme to glorify Dayton, no matter how you slice it. Whether he was unwilling or not it doesn't matter, Dayton's name is in every US history book, and for a time was on the cover of most international newspapers. The center issue of whether Creation is "correct", or Evolution is "correct", contrary to both scientists and reigious people, is COMPLETELY immaterial. The truth of the matter is that in all science classes, the origin of man must be taught according to Science, and science maintains that evolution is the accepted theory for the origin of man. That is not to say that evolution is 'right', indeed, who really knows? However, there is a part of the constitution that says that there must be a saparation between church and state. Creationism, as it is inspired by the bible, is a religious idea that cannot be taught in public schools, besides, science and religion answer 2 different questions: how, and why. Please keep it coming. COntroversy is a good thing, provided that it makes people think.

Thanks so much! posted by Anne-Cara Apple on 10/29/2001 at 20:37:28 from IP# 63.214.223.50

Thanks so much!
I have to do a report on the Scopes Monkey Trial in school, and this has been a valuable resource! Again, thanks so much,

scope trial posted by Rachel on 10/24/2001 at 18:42:19 from IP# 63.81.228.184

HI Im doing an essay about the scope trial but I supose to write about how I think they shouldn't teach it in school but I can't think of any thing. I would like if anyone would give me any ideas to help me out with please

Thanks

Thanks posted by jan on 10/24/2001 at 05:07:05 from IP# 61.9.192.141

Thnaks very much for this site, its heaps informative. im a high school student in sydney australia and my assignment is "a speech on an aspect of the justice system." because it is a speech i thought i'd include some quotes and dialogue and controversial opinions, and this site gave me all of that. Whoever thinks this is a bias site obviously didnt read it cos i detect absolutely no bias! personally i believe in evolution and this site gave a great standpoint on that. Thanks again =)

research work posted by Ethel on 10/22/2001 at 09:19:12 from IP# 152.163.204.208

I would just like to say a great 'thanx' for having such a great site available for people such as myself to use! I am supposed to be writing a piece of research on the Scopes Monkey Trial and have found this website most helpful! So thanx! ....(",)...

thank you so much!!! posted by nicole on 10/18/2001 at 21:37:24 from IP# 216.163.40.50

my homework was to find out something about the trial and your page was the only one that descibed it short and very good at the same time. i wish there were more sites like that.

scopes trial information posted by robby mason on 10/03/2001 at 12:13:34 from IP# 204.245.217.253

Hello, my name is Robby Mason and I need some more information on the scopes trial for the jury. We are doing a mock trial of the scopes trial and I need some information on the jury side to have some information on the case. I would appreciate if you could do this fairly fast for me because the trial is soon and I need your help desperately. Thank you for your time and patience.
Sincerely,
Robby Mason

scopes trial information posted by stephanie hewitt on 10/03/2001 at 12:07:54 from IP# 204.245.217.253

Hello, my name is Stephanie Hewitt and I need some more information on the scopes trial for the defense. We are doing a mock trial of the scopes trial and I need some information on the defense side to have some supporting statements for that case. I would appreciate if you could do this fairly fast for me because the trial is soon and I need your help desperately. Thank you for your time and patience.
Sincerely,
Stephanie Michele Hewitt

help posted by Michael on 09/11/2001 at 14:48:41 from IP# 198.246.3.135

I am writing a paper on the topic: Inherit The Wind is (is not) an accurate representation of the Scopes Trial. I was wondering if you could help me answer this question. I have found a few sources telling me about the trial but I am having a hard time figure out my answer

Can you help??? posted by Elisha Wellman on 09/08/2001 at 12:45:19 from IP# 198.246.3.148

I am researchin the topic: Inherit the Wind is not an accurate portrayal of the Scopes Trial, but my library at Webster University in ST. Louis does not have very many resources at all to prove my thesis. If you have any ideas please contact me. Your essay has been my best source of info that actually supports my thesis.
Sincerely
Elisha

Scopes Trial Epilogue posted by Jay Neale on 08/02/2001 at 14:23:12 from IP# 216.183.141.41

In the Scopes trial the real truth only came out years later after the trial. The so called "Scientific" evidence used by the "great scientific experts" were the "Facts" of Nebraska Man which was discovered in 1922. William Jennings Bryan had no real answer to these experts who made him look foolish and his beliefs mere religious superstition.
What was the scientific proof of Nebraska Man that was used against creation and Mr Bryans? It turns out that the "Evolutionary Experts" created Nebraska Man from a "Tooth", yes...one tooth. These "Expert Scientists" examined the tooth and declared it to be from a prehistoric race of man. Mr Bryan, when confronted with all this scientific evidence could only ask for more time. More time indeed did bring out the truth.
A number of years after the trial, an entire skeleton of what was created into "Nebraska Man" was found. It turns out that the "Scientific Experts" built a their prehistoric man from the tooth of an extinct PIG. A man from a tooth of a pig. Of course, the scientific experts were very quiet when the pig was found and they realized their stupidity. But this comes as no surprise, many more examples could be cited where the scientific experts have done this for years.

about the contast posted by niki on 06/24/2001 at 00:16:07 from IP# 209.246.208.40

what is the contrast between the scoops monkey trial and inherit the winds film????????????? please get back as so as possible

Wow! posted by Ryan on 06/07/2001 at 02:15:15 from IP# 63.21.224.185

Hey there Dr. Menton, I just read this article and couldn't help but notice how extremely biased it is. You went to the complete opposite end of Inherit the Wind. You didn't give the truth, but only preached what you believed to be true. You ridiculed the defense and said Darrow had "atheistic" beliefs. Darrow wasn't an atheist, he was agnostic. There is a big difference. Also, you said that the trial should have been solely based on if Scopes had broken the law or not. You went on to say that it was the Defense's fault for the trial to become an evolution vs. christianity trial. However, the trial was really testing to see if the law was constitutional or not, and was not the fault of Darrow. I'd have to say your article really blows and that you should stop trying to glorify your beliefs and your religion. Everybody who reads this article, realize that this is not necessarily the truth. This is somebody's interpretation of the trial and has a bias to it.

Thanks posted by alex on 06/03/2001 at 15:55:06 from IP# 64.12.103.177

Your eassay was veyr informative and it helped me grealty on my project for history. Thanks again.

Literacy posted by Steve Gaghagen on 06/02/2001 at 14:34:00 from IP# 216.192.35.59

I'm just about to begin the task of directing and performing in a local production of the play, and I wondered what I'd find on this site. The most astounding thing to me are the comments posted above. IS THERE NO ONE OUT THERE WITH A MODICUM OF LITERACY? ARE THERE NO MORE WRITERS WITH A MINIMUM COMMAND OF ENGLISH GRAMMAR, SYNTAX, OR PUNCTUATION? It's horrifyingly depressing.

Scopes Monkey trial posted by Catherine on 05/24/2001 at 04:46:21 from IP# 213.38.188.195

I have some questions:
I was confused, what happend at the end of the trial?
And why was is called the Scopes MONKEY Trial?
Thank you
Catherine

Science and Religion (Christian) posted by Paul Myerson on 05/17/2001 at 06:11:38 from IP# 213.122.163.182

I am finding your essay very helpful.
I am currently doing a 5,000 word essay for my course at the Chichester College of Arts, Science and Technology, Chichester, England (UK) on the above subject in connection with my history studies which have covered the burgeoning of science and reason. I am most interested in the effects of this on the Christian Church generally and particularly on the Evangelical / Fundamentalist traditions.

I was a student at Spurgeon's College, London (1956 - 1960) and entered the Baptist Ministry. There has been a conspiracy of silence over the Downgrade Controversy, and my training never really addressed the fundamental subject of this note.

Now, later in life, I am trying to come to terms with all of these problems, living as I am in what could be loosely called "The Post-Christian epoch in Britain". My "hero", Spurgeon, foresaw this calamity from the Victorian period, I believe, and was fighting to stem the tide. King Canute similarly failed.

I HATE IT!!! posted by jim chuchavara on 05/04/2001 at 08:08:30 from IP# 198.110.18.219

WE HATE READING THIS BOOK BUT THANKS

Thanx posted by high school student on 04/23/2001 at 11:52:49 from IP# 63.28.48.9

I read your articles on the Scopes Trial and was surprised by the subjectivy
in the book Inherit the Wind. In many places people take the book as pure fact yet it is marred by so much prejudice. Thank you for a more objective veiw. If you could send me more information on evolution though, it would be greatly appreciated; as I am a student who is daily given the chance to hear evolution from a subjective veiwpoint. Thank you again

HAHA posted by Kevin on 04/18/2001 at 09:09:05 from IP# 208.183.105.4

Very interesting (read "silly") point of view on the purpose of Darrow's prescence. I suppose that pathetic hack at him was an attempt to average out the pages that misrepresent Bryan, but it is still inexcusable on what is supposed to be an imformative site.

Thanks posted by Tabitha on 04/09/2001 at 20:02:30 from IP# 165.121.122.193

I am a junior in high school, and my U.S. History teacher wanted us to do a mock trial about evolution and we had just gotten done watching Inherit the Wind, then I read this article and it has helped me prepare my Prosecution. If there is anymore information you can send me I would be very thankful. Thank you very much. Tabitha

pg posted by Mickey on 04/03/2001 at 11:22:49 from IP# 169.139.1.20

this was veryb useful even though i thought it might have some of your own insight about the trial

?? posted by Holly on 04/01/2001 at 23:45:26 from IP# 12.32.62.49

what??? im confused..... well me and my friends used this website for a school project, and we couldn't get alot of information........ but we got some. it was helpful in what we got.

very informative posted by mani on 03/15/2001 at 00:59:28 from IP# 206.15.3.221

i have to do a project on one aspect of the 1920's for my history class and i chose to do it on the scopes monkey trials. i didnt know what it was about at first, i just thought it had a really cool name. now, after reading this, i know what it is all about... so thanks!

This is cool! posted by Laura on 03/05/2001 at 18:57:44 from IP# 216.78.37.28

I liked your point of view as you portrayed this event. It's really nice to read something from a different perspective than the writers who for some reason just except evelutionism as fact! Thanks!

Question posted by Renee on 02/28/2001 at 21:36:41 from IP# 152.163.194.198

Hi,
I just read this article and I found it very informative. I am a highschool student currently working on a project in school on Darwinism. Could you give me your opinion on Darwinism and how it affects society today? Could you also give me a perspective on how the "Scopes Monkey Trial" effects society today?
Thanks~Renee

very informative posted by Giselle on 02/28/2001 at 18:53:59 from IP# 24.189.130.229

I was very pleased to read your article on the Scopes Trial. I just finished reading the play and I found it to be one of the most interesting piece of literature that I have read. I also found your article to be very informative, my teacher forgot to mention that the trial took place in Dayton, Tennesse and the real names of the characters. I am very interedsted in learning more about the trial and would appreciate it if you could e-mail to me some resources and information on the trial.

Thank you,
Giselle

e-mail: ningiselle@hotmail.com

Very good posted by Researching high school student on 02/22/2001 at 16:37:09 from IP# 205.188.193.22

Excellent portrayal of the situation!

Scopes Trial posted by Andy Bradbury on 02/20/2001 at 13:14:48 from IP# 194.72.110.10

I am constantly amazed at the number of people who imagine that the play/film "Inherit the Wind" actually presents an accurate account of the Scopes Trial.

Even on this site I see that "Speech Hopeful" wishes Dr Menton had said something about "the policeman sitting outside the classroom door, waiting to arrest Scopes"

Dear Speech Hopeful - it didn't get mentioned because IT NEVER HAPPENED in real life - only in the film!

My only criticism of this article concerns its brevity. What's there is good, but for people doing school/college projects more information is required.

So if you've enjoyed Dr Menton's article, but you'd like a few more details, may I invite you to visit http://www3.mistral.co.uk/bradburyac/tennesse.html


I would like to second Bob Dole's statment. posted by C. Skorik on 02/16/2001 at 16:49:43 from IP# 64.252.95.53

This is an archive, so stop asking questions! Thank you.

DUR! posted by bob dole on 02/05/2001 at 11:04:51 from IP# 206.140.70.22

my god, dont you people see that this is an archive!!??? stop asking questions!!!!

Constructivity... posted by Agnostic Fool on 02/05/2001 at 00:37:24 from IP# 205.160.206.195

Just some things you missed:
The writers of Inherit the Wind used the premise of the Scopes monkey trial to protest the wave of Mccarthysm sweeping across America in the 1950's. Everything taht wasn't christian and white was quickly becoming communist and undemocratic and so the play inherit the wind was born, not to educate people on the Scopes trial but to reinforce the write to free speech. Secondly your obviously trying to paint Mr. Darrow in a negative light. . . Saying that he was a terrible lawyer and a fool compared to the great William Jennings Bryan when this is in fact quite untrue. Though it is not as one sided as Inherit the Wind portrays almost everyone agrees That Mister Darrow came out on top and furthermore he was seeking a guilty verdict for his client during this lowly Criminal Court case simply because the constitutionality of the law could not be tested at this low level of the court system of Tennessee, to do this he would need an appeal and to get an appeal he would need a guilty verdict. You did not mention the fact that the verdict was overruled by the supreme court, why you did this I do not know...

Question posted by Stephen on 01/30/2001 at 16:36:08 from IP# 209.214.162.227

Hi
What were the similarities in what happened in reality (Scopes Monkey Trial) and compared to what happened in the movie version (Inherit the Wind)? I have some information about the compare and contrast between the two such as different names of people and in reality, it was in Dayton, Tennessee, not Hillsboro, Tennessee, ETC. If you have any more information, please e-mail me back. Thankyou

Stephen

scopestrial posted by rida on 01/26/2001 at 10:23:48 from IP# 204.220.208.189

i will like information about the scopes trial

question posted by ALEX on 01/19/2001 at 10:36:51 from IP# 62.0.167.64

My name is Alex and I'm a highschool student.

I'd like to know the social impact that the trial had on the educational system in America.

Thank you
Alex.

Disappointed... posted by Kevin Murphy on 01/15/2001 at 13:05:05 from IP# 207.149.194.148

Dr. Menton,

Upon beginning to read your article, I was pleased to find the makings of a non-biased argument against the unfair treatment the Scopes trial has received over the past 75 years. Although I am not an Creationist, I am always eager to read a educated opinion contrary to my own. However, even going in to this article with an open mind I was soon disappointed. Although the tone of the piece begins to meander from a strict, academic expository essay, it is at the point of your synopses of Darrow and Bryan that you are aiming for a persuasive essay. However, this is where your technique is flawed. It seems that the aim of this essay is to allow anyone interested in the history of this trial a more accurate view of events than the one which has been portrayed by the media over the years, in hopes that the creationist side will not come off looking ignorant. However, to avoid preaching to the choir, you only have one option to make a cogent argument for the Creationist stance--to present facts in a new light, not to create sensationalism. Instead, you assume the reader will fall agape at the same things that you find shocking; and you rely on puntuation to emphasize your points (i.e. repeatedly interrupting and insulting Judge Raulston!). I don't think I'm alone in saying that errant quotation marks or the odd exclamation point will not change my opinion of matters. As for one more matter which you find exclamation-pointworthy, Clarence Darrow did indeed ask that the jury find his client guilty--and for good reason. Clarence Darrow was not in Tennessee for the sake of John Scopes, he--like Bryan, the ACLU, and the national media--was involved in the issue. He called for the jury to find his client guilty to point out what he considered to be the ridiculousness of the Butler Act. And as you pointed out yourself, the maximum punishment was a 00 fine, so it was not as if he was sending his client to the gallows by asking the jury to find him guilty. I hope that you read my note as nothing more than constructive criticism. As I said in the beginning, I was eager to hear your point of view but was unable to considering it due to the subjectivity of this piece. Remember, you get nowhere by alienating the opposition. Kevin Murphy

essay posted by sarah on 01/07/2001 at 16:08:15 from IP# 63.232.32.14

Hi i am writing an essay on Inherit the Wind and i want to compare and contrast Mr. Drummonds and Mr. Brady's views on evolution. My teacher wants me to prove a specific point. If you could help me think of a point to prove i would greatly apprectiate it. Thank you.

many many thanks posted by Speech hopeful on 01/02/2001 at 23:32:04 from IP# 64.12.105.39

I was hoping to find a site just like this to wrap up my speech final. I choose to write a speech (horribly long) on how the religious persecute others. I am very glad that I could recieve this information about the Scopes trial, but I wish that you would have put in something about the policeman sitting outside the classroom door, waiting to arrest Scopes. >^^ Again, much thanks to you and your site.

Thanks! posted by John on 12/18/2000 at 08:51:57 from IP# 169.139.1.20

Being a fundamentalist, I wanted to find out the real deal behind the Scopes Trial and this article gave me some very important facts I can now discuss with my teacher who seems to be leaving out details to my class!

question posted by Christine on 12/17/2000 at 01:32:06 from IP# 65.3.207.121

hi. i'm a middle school student in California. we have read the book Inherit the Wind and i have a question. Based on the book, can you tell me what the passage, "He who troubles his own house will inherit the wind, and fool will be servant to the wise?"

This is the things i have to answer. How do different characters in the play make "trouble" their own "house" and what kinds of "wind" do they "inherit?" Who is the "fool" in the play and how do they come to "serve" the "wise?" Who is the "wise" and why? Why is it important to express the essence or theme of a story in a single quotation? If you can, give an example from a nother that does this.

If yuo can answer these questions for me, that will be facinating.

thanks

best posted by Me Myself and I on 12/13/2000 at 20:13:57 from IP# 207.172.129.19

This is the best wbsite that I have found on the web so far. it very very informative. The more informative the better>
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comments posted by researching student on 12/08/2000 16:40:56 from IP# 149.89.1.69

haven't read it yet, but from skim, looks pretty informative. gonna print & use as valid source now.
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this is a very good site posted by Inna on 12/04/2000 13:45:57 from IP# 205.188.200.155

I was very proud of your work here. I would have never came up with such a clever site. I was very pleased with the way you portrayed the scoped trial. This page gets an A+ in my book. I hope you make more educational pages and e-mail me when you make them.
A very happy computer lover,
Inna Z.
P.S dont forget to e-mail me about more educational sites you make, or other ones that have been made

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